24 San Francisco
THE INTERVIEW
July 20, 2009. 10:36am
Dir. Travis Mathews: So tell me what's up. where are you, what are you doing, listening to, etc...
Ginno: well i'm at home in my room, sorta packing for San Diego while going back and forth searching for a second job on Craigslist. i'm listening to Grizzly Bear as of now.
DEAD END JOBS
Travis: what's up w your work situation. you got laid off last week?
Ginno: haha, funny story. i sort of walked off.
Travis: where were you working? and what happened?
Ginno: i worked in Redwood City as an admin for a construction company. the only reason why i stayed was for the pay. but i considered it a dead end job. there are days when i'm sitting at my desk just saying to myself "what the hell am i doing here". so maybe a over a week ago, i was basically fed up. went to my boss and said i'm leaving. without any notice of course. in someways i regret it. but in another now i can focus on what i want to do, which is something in design.
Travis: what was the final straw that made you say "must leave now"?
Ginno: basically everything. stacks of endless paper work. phone calles of questions i don't have answers to. i was basically a zombie there.
Travis: well congratulations then. sounds miserable.
Ginno: thanks. though i'm doing cake designs now. random.
Travis: cake designs! how the hell did that happen
Ginno: only thing that was open. haha. i think they like my resume? i did do a lot of design work in school. no experience at all. i'm not baking or anything, just doing the final touch ups.
FASHION
Travis: what are your fashion aspirations, i think you told me that you wanted to get into merchandising?
Ginno: i still do. i think about it everyday. it seems like there is nothing available right now. to be honest i would rather just go back to school and see where it takes me. though my friend and i plan in the future to open up a vintage boutique (wishful thinking).
Travis: i can see you doing that in a heartbeat. your room is a vintage boutique in some respects already! the polaroid cameras and the infamous record player that i could watch spinning for days. love that record player
Ginno: thanks. i would rather do that. i don't care about the money. just something i can be proud of. thank you!
BUTTHEADS
Travis: you and Mike were the only 2 guys from the video who were bonafide Buttheads. explain what a Butthead is.
Ginno: hmm, to me...i think about a different gay aspect. Of course i'm going by the genre of the magazine. Not everyone can relate too, though i feel like it's the artsy part of the gay lifestyle. okay let me try to clarify this. a Butthead to me is that unique gay guy that you see walking down the street, has a sense of style and does not care about what everyone else thinks about him. probably does not even look gay. does not hang out in the flamboyant areas and more in the low key dive bars. probably has minimal gay friends and more straight. keeps to himself...gah! hard question.
Travis: i want to get to the points you're making here, but for people who dont even know what the hell we're talking about, there's a collection of posts on the Butt Magaine website that are basically low maintenance personals. what was your motivation to post your image and contact info on there and what's been the response?
Ginno: honestly, i think i was drunk that night. i usually don't do the whole "personals" hook ups. no hook ups, not that i expected anything.
ISO
Travis: so the "butt" guy you're describing, is this the kind of guy you're into? I know that during your interview you mentioned hair and style as being a couple of important things for you
Ginno: yes, it's my "ideal" kind of guy. i think everyone has that thought of the perfect image of the guy they want, and 99% of time it's what we never get, at least for me. but i can safely say that i have no regrets with every guy i have slept with.
Travis: wow. no regrets? you're making me feel like a filthy slut. but kudos to you. are you very selective or is it that you dont believe in regrets?
Ginno: i can be a filthy slut at times. orgies are not fun. i think i am more selective, which is why i have no regrets, and which is why i don't get laid as often at i want.
Travis: whoa. i didnt know we were talking orgies-too many bodies and minds to contend with. but to each his own...being selective, sounds like you have a solid sense of what you want and by extension i might guess who you are. i mean, by extension i might guess that you also have a solid sense of who you are.
BOTTOMING
Ginno: i'm very reserved. and more of an observer then a socialite. i'm quiet, and i tend to keep in myself, which is why i come off as snobby to some people.
Travis: im sure that's frustrating, or anxiety provoking, when that's not at all what's going on with you, eh? but for the record, you dont seem snobby at all to me. so you're talking about being shy and reserved. you talked about that in your interview and how you also really like to bottom. any of that related you think?
Ginno: i don't know if that relates to anything to that. i do like to bottom, and most of the time it does hurts. i think guys who are are bottoms are considered to be the bitches of the relationship. i don't know where i'm going with this. haha.
Travis: oh, i wasnt suggesting that you were the bitch in any relationship. im just thinking about being pursued, being penetrated, maybe being passive. all those P words feel a bit linked to me. so you like to bottom but it often hurts...something that came up a lot in many of the interviews, anal sex as pain. i remember you saying that you really like the feeling of someone inside you. can you describe why that's such a good feeling irrespective of what might also be painful?
Ginno: just the thought of him penetrating me get's me off. hearing his deep breaths and knowing that the more harder he get's the more he is enjoying it. as for me it's more of a sensual pain? the though of it is great but the physical aspect of it really hurts. it's hard to explain.
Travis: that makes sense to me. i think most of the people reading this will also get it. and you have no interest in topping, right?
Ginno:i've tried, it's not for me.
Travis: what was it about it?
Ginno: i don't really get any pleasure by doing it. and honestly i can't get hard when they want me to do it. i'm just not into it.
Travis: itll be interesting to see if that changes as you get older. i think that happens for a lot of us boys. either way, it sounds like you have a clear idea of what you like in guys and what you like sexually.
THE OTHER GUYS IN THE VIDEO
Ginno: a lot of them are very attractive. i felt intimated in some ways. it's for me to imagine to be in the category as them. hard for me.
Travis: and what's the category you're putting them in that makes it difficult?
Ginno: i feel like i'm not on the same level as they are. like i'm always a step behind them. they seem to be established in who they are why i still feel like i'm trying to find myself. if that makes any sense...
Travis: we're all on the same ride. i was swooning over all of you guys while i was piecing this together in my little editing room. i really appreciate what all of you had to bring. i wouldnt under appreciate yourself. it's scary to be so revealing on camera, and in front of a stranger!
Ginno: you made very comfortable. and thank you for that.
Travis: was it uncomfortable watching yourself on video?
Ginno: a little bit. i'm usually the one behind the camera. it's comes with the shyness.
Travis: right. it's easier to be the one manning the camera.
Ginno: exactly.
IT'S MONDAY
Travis: What are your plans for the day?
Ginno: it's my day off, so probably nothing. my roomates are out of time so now i can walk around naked. just kidding. just probably finish up packing and such.
Travis: right, you're going to san diego
Ginno: i'll probably search craigslist more for a second part time job. very excited about SD.
Travis: well good luck with that and have a nice trip to socal. i appreciate you taking some time to chat.
